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Volume 3 Number 2 Summer 1993 



MEMORY MAP 

ROUTINES ADDRESS 

T/SNUG Chairmen 1 

T/SNUG mformation 2 

From the Chairman's desk 3 

Library 5 

rTEMS available from T/SNUG 5 

Special Deals and Buys 6 

kput/Output 16 

Treasurer Notes 17 

ARTICLES 

SPDOS for Ramex Mellina K 6 

RecordKeeping 7 

DiskLife 9 

Ads 14 

Questionare 15 

Our Dealers 18 



T/SNUG CHAIRMEN 

Here is the list of 1993 T/SNUG Chairmen and how to contact them We wish to support the 
following SIGS:- ZX-80/81/TS-1000, Z88, SPECTRUM/TS-2068/TC-2068 and QL if you have any 
questions about any of these fine machines, contact the Chairman. 



POSITION 


NAME 


PHONE 


PRIMARY FUNCTION 


Chairman 


Don Lambert (ISTUG) 


219 925-1372 


ChiefMotivator 


Vice-Chainnan 


D.G. Smith 


814 535-6996 


Tape &JLO Library 


Vice-Chairman 


Dave Bennett (CATS) 


717 774-7531 


Z-88 


Vice-Chairman 


Ed Snow 


407 380-5124 


ZX-81 Tape Library 


Vice-Chairman 


Rod Gowen (CCATS) 


503 655-7484 


RMG 


Vice-Chairman 


Rod Humphreys (VSUG) 


604 931-5509 


TS-2068 


Vice-Chairman 


Bob Swoger (CATUG) 


708 837-7957 


BBS/LARKEN 


Treasurer 


Abed Kahale (CATUG) 


708 885-4337 


Cash Tracker/Newsletter 



Copyright © 1991 Timex/Sinclair NorthAmerican User Groups 

ZXk QLive Alive! 

Volume 3 Number 2 Summer 1993 



T/SNUG Information 



ZXir QLive Alive! • 

the newsletter of T/SNUG, the 
Timex/Sinclair North American User 
Groups, providing news and software 
support to the T/S community in at least 
four newsletters per year. 

It is our goal to build and maintain a 
Public Domain software library and 
develop a list of available software for 
all T/S computers showing the source. 

T/SNUG wishes to have one 
chairman from every T/S user group who 
will take charge of sending us their 
group's newsletter contents and other 
correspondence for inclusion in the ZQA 
Newsletter. 

We encourage your group to copy 
this newsletter and distribute it at regular 
meetings to all your members. If you 
cannot copy this newsletter, perhaps we 
can provide a disk with the articles on it. 

YOU can keep T/SNUG alive for an 
annual contribution of $10 made payable 
to Abed Kahale. Send check to:- 

ABEDKAHALE 

ZXir QLive ALivef Newsletter 

335 W NEWPORT RD 

HOFFMAN ESTATES 1L 60195-3106 

Phone:- 708 885-4337 

ZXir QLive Alive! 
Articles Contributions 

If you like to contribute an article to the 
Newsletter, upload a file to our BBS called 
TSNUG.ART . If you have an AD for the 
Newsletter, UPLOAD a file called 
TSNUG.ADS. If you have news to post 



about your group, UPLOAD a file called 
TSNUG.NWS 

For help, contact the SYSOP by E- 
MAIL on the TSNUG BBS, mail or phone:- 

BOB SWOGER (C ATUG/LarKen) 
613 PARKSIDE OR 
STREAMWOOD IL 60107-1647 

It is preferred that you call:- 

H 708 837-7957 W 708 576-8068 



To contribute a hardcopy, tape or disk 
your inputs to:- 

DONALD LAMBERT 
ZXir (Jive ALive! Newsletter 
1301 KIBIJNGERPL 
AUBURN IN 46706-3010 
Phone 219 925-1372 



for software libraries, write or call the 
following Vice-Chairmen When writing 
PLEASE enclose aLSASE . 

DAVE BENNETT (Z88) 
329 WALTON ST REAR 
LEMOYNE PA 17045 

ROD GOWEN (CCATS) 
14784 QUAIL GROVE OR 
OREGON CITY OR 97045 

ROD HUMPHREYS (VSUG/2068) 

10984 COLLINS PL 

DELTA B C V4C 7E6 CANADA 

D G SMITH (2068 TAPE & JLO) 
R415 STONE ST 
JOHNSTOWN PA 15906 

ED SNOW (ZX-81 TAPE) 
2136 CHURCHILL DOWNS OR 
ORLANDO FL 32825 



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FROM THE CHAIRMANS DESK ^ 

Here I am starting Vol . 3 #2 and 
I have seen only the advance 
copies of Vol- 2 #4 and Vol. 3 
# i. But that is the way with 
publication. You have to work 
far in advance to keep up. 

I have found yet another DOS 
(Disk Operating System) for the 
T/S 2068. It is not a new one 
but one that was called to my 
attention while Frank Davis and 
I were discussing the T/S 2068 
and the DOS available for it. I 
mentioned the Ramex and he 
mentioned that it was the Ramex 
Millenia K which was from U. K. 
and that it was also usable on 
the Oliger system. So I found 
out more details. This all 
happened at a meeting of ISTU6. 
More about that in a separate 
article. I was also discussing 
having an AERCO 2068 disk 
interface but I don't want to 
have yet another set of drives 
and also I don't have room to 
have another computer setup all 
the time. Besides, a software 
only DOS was interesting. 

I have a T/S 2068 with the 
Russell Spectrum Rom installed 
but I think that there is 
something wrong with it. I can 
not get it to operate correctly 
(or what I think is correctly). 
And without another computer set 
up the same way that is working 
correctly I don't really know. 
It seems to work with a pure 
Larken disk interface but when 
I try to use an Oliger with a 
Larken dock board seems to be 
when I have the trouble. I am 
planning to install a Spectrum 
EPROM on the Larken dock board 
and see if that is a better way 
of going. 

A thought just crossed my mind, 
"How do we stay with our T/S 
computers when the last one 
bites the trail?" And it came to 
me that since there are programs 
to emulate the ZX81 and the 
Spectrum and I believe the QL 
for the MSDOS computers that is 
the way we will have to go to 



to stay with the software and 
possibly some of the hardware 
that we currently use. I would 
like to hear from anyone that 
has successfully used a MSDOS 
computer to emulate any of the 
above and the luck in converting 
the original T/S programs to run 
on the Emulators. I am 
especially interested in which 
MSDOS computers will run the 
software. 

I saw an article on using 
computers to preserve family 
history. Of course it is a 
program or suite of programs to 
do that offered by colleges or 
a software developer. Howver, 
with our trusty T/S computers 
and a little ingenuity it is 
possible to do it without their 
software package and get it 
printed out far cheaper. See 
Preserving Family History. 

About the Larken Ramdisk and 
battery life. I put a pair of 
alkaline AAA batteries in my 
orginal Larken Ramdisk in May 
1989 and the voltage of the 
batteries is still 2.9 volts or 
1.45 volts each. Of course that 
Ramdisk has only 128K of memory. 
My working Ramdisk with 256K of 
memory probably will have a 
faster battery drain. I did 
write to Radio Shack but the 
reply was not very helpful 1 
since they could not tell me how 
long the batteries would take to 
drop to 1.1 each or a total of 
2.2. The static ram chips 
require at least 2.0 volts to 
maintain memory. 

I was sent a disk with some 
files on it for the Larken disk 
interface. But there was a 
problem. The disk was 3.5 and 
all I have are 5.25. No problem 
except that when I took it to 
the ISTUG meeting I found that 
Paul's 3.5 disk drive would not 
read the directory. But Frank's 
3.5 would but the other drive 
was a 80 track and the copy 
program was on a 40 track disk. 
So I LOADed the copy program and 
unplugged the disk interface 



and plugged in Frank's, and then 
copied the disk. Sort of round 
the rosy sort of deal but I got 
it done. The drives I take to 
the meeting are two 1/2 height 
40 track drives. 

I use D. U. S. by Kristian 
Boisvert and use copy I I. Bl to do 
the copying. It FORMATS the disk 
as it copies and it also starts 
with track 0 so whatever is the 
title of the orginal disk is 
copied. It also copies 5 tracks 
at a time so there is less disk 
drive operation. But it will 
only work with the Larken disk 
interface. In copying a set of 
disks for the CATUG library I 
did discover that occasionally 
it does not actually copy a 
disk. Nor does it report BAD 
DISK! However, since I always 
check for a correct SAVE after 
I have finished I discovered 
that I had a problem. Two disks 
out of about 60 actually refused 
to accept a copy using D. U. S. 
copy 1 1 program. And the disk had 
been FORMAT ted with the Larken 
so there is something strange 
going on. 

After using the Oliger disk 
interface there is one feature 
of Oliger that I like. And that 
is it reports how many bytes is 
saved in each file on the disk 
when you do a CAT. Of course the 
Larken does report how many 
blocks of text are in each file 
but the Oliger does let you know 
just exactly how many bytes are 
in the blocks of the files. It 
is really nice when working with 
a wordprocessor since you can 
look with MSCRIPT to see how big 
the file is and chack to see if 
that is what is SAVEd. Of course 
for a reason that I don't have 
the answer to the text SAVEd to 
disk is always 1 byte more than 
the size of the file given by 
MSCRIPT. 

I had a call out for a full 
height double sided double 
density Tandon TM 100-2A disk 
drive(s) and I got a response on 
April 1st but nothing 



materialized. Then this last 
week (first week of June) I got 
a call from Bob Swoger and a 
fellow there thought he could 
find me some drives that he 
thought might be Tandon drives. 
So I asked for 3. He also was 
wanting a full height 80 track 
drive which I will exchange with 
him. Then a few days later I got 
a call from the first person and 
he is going to send me some 
Tandon drives. Since all drives 
are used off of IBM computers 
during upgrading they could be 
clunkers. So if I get two 
working drives out of the 6 I 
will be not badly off in price 
since full height drives are 
almost non existent. It pays to 
have a stock pile of some parts 
in case of failure. I will 
either have 6 untested drives or 
none'. 

And I got a call from a person 
that I was working with by 
letters and telephone when I was 
in Iowa (I moved here in 1990) 
on problems with the ZX81 and he 
dropped out of sight. Since he 
has changed work places and 
moved so he wanted the address 
of SMUG so he could go to 
meetings. He is in electronics 
and is trying to get back to 
tinkering with the ZX81. 

I have finally decided to set up 
a schedule of publication for 
ZXir QLive Alive! With 
publication set for January, 
April, July and October I 
decided that I should have a cut 
off date for material submitted. 
Camera ready ads (ready to be 
copied in the newsletter) can be 
accepted up to the day before I 
mail the material to Bob Swoger 
to be printed. That day will be 
the 15th of the month preceeding 
publication. That will give Bob 
a chance to get it printed and 
delivered to Abed Kahale for 
mailing in time to meet thp 
schedule. This month is a littU 
late since it is already June 
17th. Other material can be 
submitted anytime but if it is 
too close to mailing time it may 



be held over till the next 
issue. 0/0. 

Don Lambert 

Timex/Sinclair NorthAmerican 
User Groups 



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It has come to my attention that 
there are those out there that 
do not want to use the telephone 
to find out about availability 
or the software and/or hardcopy 
libraries. So for those I am 
including the address of the 
Vice-Chairmen if not given else 
where in Zxir QLive Alive!. 

Please! When writing enclose 
a LSASE: 

DAVE BENNETT (Z88) 
329 WALTON ST REAR 
LEMOYNE PA 17043 

D. 6. SMITH (2068 TAPE/JLO) 
R 415 STONE ST 
JOHNSTOWN PA 15906 

ED SNOW (ZX81 TAPE) 
2136 CHURCHILL DOWNS CIR 
ORLANDO FL 32825 

ROD GOWAN (CCATS) 

14784 QUAIL GROVE CIRCLE 

OREGON CITY OR 97045 

ROD HUMPHREYS (VSUG/2068) 

10984 COLLINS PLACE 

DELTA B. C. V4C 7E6 CANADA 

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COMPUTERFEST 

. COMPUTERFEST 1993 sponsored by 
the Dayton Microcomputer 
Association, Inc. will be held 
on Saturday August 28th from 10 
AM to 6 PM and Sunday August 
29th from 10 AM to 4 PM at the 
HARA Conference & Exhibition 
Center, 1001 Shiloh Springs Rd, 
Dayton Ohio. Tickets are *5.00 
in advance and *6. at the door. 
T/Sers will used Red Roof Inn 
North the last two times for 
their accommodations. 

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NOTE TO MEMBERS 

If you have a question, an 
article or a complaint send a 
note or a Post Card tos>) 

ABED KAHALE 

335 W NEWPORT RD 

HOFFMAN ESTATE IL 60195-3106 

Phone: (708) 885-4337 

OR 

DONALD S. LAMBERT 
1301 KIBLINGER PLACE 
AUBURN IN 46706-3010 
Phone (219) 925-1372 

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ITEMS AVAILABLE FROM T/SNUG 

It has come to our attention 
that some LarKen Users are using 
something less than Vesion 3 
firmware. T/SNUG will supply 
updated EPROMS, SYSTEM DISKS, 
and MANUALS. Call in request to 
Bob Swoger at W708-576-8068 
H708-837-7957 

If you have a mismatch between 
your LarKen DOS EPROM and your 
Western Digital Controller chip, 
we will send you the correct one 
for free on behalf of our 
friends Rod Gowan of RMG and 
Larry Kenny of LarKen. You 
should be using L3 EPROMS with 
WD1770 controller chips or L3F 
EPROMS with WD1772 controller 



chips or L3F EPROMS with WD1772 
controller chips. Check it out! 
Call in requests to Bob Swoger 
at W708-576-8968 H708-837-7957 

SPECIAL DEALS AND BUYS 



NAP_Ware (Nazir A- Pashtoon's 
new endeaver) announces the 
availability of all Time* or QL 
PAL (Programmable Array Logic) 
chips. If interested, call him 
evenings at 708-439-1679. 



If you are a LarKen LK-DOS owner 
and would like a SPECTRUM V2 kit 
for your system, we will supply 
an EPROM, socket and 74HCT32 for 
$12.00 which includes shipping 
and handling. The install 
instructions are in your LarKen 
manual. We shall not be 
responsible for your install 
job. AERCO owners need only the 
SPECTRUM EPROM for *10. *10 is 
forwarded to LarKen. Call in 
requests to Bob Swoger at 
W708-576-8086 H708-837-7957 



So you like to fly? The 747 
Flight Simulator for Spectrum by 
Derek Ash ton of DACC sold over 
40K copies in EUROPE. Requires 
Spectrum Emulator. At this time 
supplied on Lark Ken SSDD only 
for $10.00 which goes to Derek 
Ashton, now working at MOTOROLA 
with Bob Swoger. Call in 
requests to Bob at W708-576-8068 
H708-837 7957. 

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SPDOS or yet another T/S 2068 
disk DOS. 

By Donald S. Lambert. 

May back when there was a disk 
interface for the T/S 2068 
called Ramex Millenia K. See 
UPDATE for January 1988 page 8. 
SPDOS was originally marketed by 
WATFORD ELECTRONICS as a disk 
interface and operating ysytem. 
KEPSTON later marketed a version 
which used a smaller amount of 
RAM, approx. 700 bytes (WATFORD g 



used about 8K). A varient of the 
SPDOS interface was marketed in 
North America by Ramex 
International, LTD and known as 
the MILLENIA K. The SPDOS 
presently being marketed by the 
CUYAHOGA VALLEY SOFTWARE WORKS 
is a modification of SPDOS for 
the 2068 running on Oliger 
hardware. It is sold under 
license from ABBEYDALE DESIGNERS 
LTD,, who wrote SPDOS. 

It is still available from 
CUYAHOGA VALLEY SOFTWARE WORKS; 
615 SCHOOL AVE. ; CUYAHOGA FALLS, 
OHIO 44221 for S24.95 plus *1.50 
postage. Currently it is 
available through CVSW only on 
80 track 5.25 disks but I could 
help make it available on 40 
track 5.25 disks. The package 
will consist of two disks and a 
30 page manual . 

The first disk is just a few 
files and it converts the Oliger 
disk system to accept SPDOS. 
Then you place the SPDOS boot 
disk in the first drive and 
press enter and there is the 
SPDOS screen and you are ready 
to work with SPDOS. While the 
Larken and the Oliger number the 
disks 0, 1, 2, and 3; SPDOS 
numbers the drives 1, 2, 3, and 
4. And you have to use drive 1 
(SPDOS #1 not Oliger #1) for the 
boot disk. In fact there are 
many things that require that 
drive to have the SPDOS boot 
disk in drive 1. The commands 
are very similar to Larken 
except that you can only use 
PRINT #4: command: X.X. 

The main differences that you 
will find are that this is a RAM 
based DOS and it is in memory 
from 58500 thru 63500. It 
supports sequential files and 
also program overlays. 

One main difference in the DOS 
is that SPDOS FORMATS a track to 
ten 512 sectors and the minumum 
SAVE to disk is IK. Then there 
is a maximum of 144 files to a 
disk and if the disk is not a 
data disk the first 15K is not 



useable for SAVEing a file to 
since it will have the BOOT 
program there - 

The only problem I had with 
SPDOS was in copying the disks 
using MOVE- The manual gave the 
following: 

PRINT #4: MOVE ,,M I PRINT 

dl,d2 

but when I tried it I got ERROR 
messages mostly var not found. 

I messed around and tried this 
and that with more ERROR 
messages. I finally called 
Thomas Simon and he looked it up 
in the manual and aha! this is 
what I was supposed to have 
used: 

PRINT #4: MOVE "% ""■ PRINT 1,2 
or whatever drives you are 
copying from and to. 

It worked, and when I asked 
Frank Davis about it he said he 
had the same problem. 

To FORMAT a disk you can either 
use the FORMAT that is in the 
SYSCOPY program or use the 
f ol lowing: 

PRINT #4: FORMAT "disk name": 
PRINT (number of the drive to be 
formatted 1-4), (the number of 
tracks of that drive 35, 40, 
80 ) , ( the number of sides on the 
drive 1 or 2), (and the stepping 
rate 1-4 with 1=6MS, 2=12MS, 
3=20MS, 4=30MS) 

I have a version of MSCRIPT that 
works with SPDOS but it has had 
the memory shortened so that it 
has about 2 1/2 pages of text or 
ROOM in memory 9627. But it 
works. 

And now I have a copy of TASWORD 
that works with SPDOS. But it 
does have a limited file size. 

And my thoughts about SPDOS is 
that while it works it is not 
friendly like either the Larken 
or the Oliger DOS in that it is 
software only and it uses up 11K 



of memory. I now know what the 
MSDOS users go through. First 
you load the software that 
prepares the Oliger for SPDOS 
and then you LOAD SPDOS. And 
SPDOS is not bashful 1 about 
reporting an error code which 
you seldom see with either the 
Larken or the Oliger. It is a 
joy to use a real user friendly 
disk operating system. 

RecordKeeping 

While there are a few 'DataBase' softwares 
available for the 2068 such as PROFILE, I like 
to roH my own program. I needed some kind of 
simple record to keep track of the membership 
list. Of course this program can be used for any 
other data keeping function. 1000 records, 32 
characters each and 3K of free memory left. 

MENU 

1. START a new record. 

2. ADD or Update a record. 

3. LIST the records to the screen starting 
at the record of your choice. 

4. FIND a record by entering the first 3 
characters. 

5. SEARCH (wild-card) by entering 
letter(s) or numeral(s). Handy when the 
spelling is not sure. 

6. CORRECTION to a record. 

7. PRINT to large printer. Select margin 
and column width, (delete fines 4000 to 
4035 for the 2040) 

8. SORT alphanumerically using SHELL 
SORT routine, (about 100 records/ 
minute) 

9. CATalogdisk. 

0. SAVE "program" LINE 10. 

Use GOTO G if you break, or loose data 
if you use RUN. 



The program can accommodate 
addresses by changing D!M( 1000,32) to 
say, DIM(350, 3, 32) with appropriate 
changes to 0${... ) in the program. 



5 DIM O$(1000,32) 
10 CLS : LET 5=18: LET H=100 

12 POKE 23658,8: POKE 23609,10: PAPER l: INK 9: BORDER 1: BEE 

.03,40: BEEP .05,42: BEEP .03,45 

15 PRINT PAPER 5;'RcorDBase by Abed Kahale 1992" 

20 PRINT '"1 - Start a NEW File' 

25 PRINT "2 - ADD new records)' 

30 PRINT "3 - LIST records* 

35 PRINT '"4 - FIND a record' 

40 PRINT '"5 - SEARCH, Hi Id-Card ■ Use (GOTO 6) after BREAK 
'"6 - CORRECT an entery" 
'"7 - LPRINT records list* 
"8 - SORT records' 

'"9 - CATalog disk"TAB 19; INVERSE 1"FREE MEMORY* 
65 PRINT '0 - SAVE to disk';TAB 24? INVERSE SGN PI? FREE 
70 PAUSE NOT PI 
100 LET L$=INKEY* 



45 PRINT 
50 PRINT 
55 PRINT 
60 PRINT 



60 SUB VAL '200' 
NEXT J 

60 SUB VAL '600' 
60 SUB VAL "700* 
GO SUB VAL 
60 SUB VAL 
60 SUB VAL 
60 SUB VAL 
CLS : RANDOMIZE USR H: CAT 
60 SUB VAL "9000 , 



'3(300' 



■ ■ 



PAUSE 0 



110 IF L$='l' THEN 
120 IF L*='2" THEN 
130 IF L$="3" THEN 
140 IF L$="4" THEN 
150 IF L$='5" THEN 
168 IF L$="6" THEN 
170 IF L$="7" THEN 
175 IF L$='B' THEN 
180 IF L$='9' THEN 
190 IF L*="0" THEN 
195 60 TO 6 
2313 FOR J=l TO 1000 

240 CLS : PRINT "ENTER "Z" TO TERMINATE ENTERIES' 
250 PRINT AT VAL "10', VAL "10";"ITEM NUMBER "; FLASH 1?J 
260 INPUT 'Title, Cassette* & Counter read-ing?"' LINE C$ 
265 IF LEN C*>32 THEN BEEP .5,40: PRINT INVERSE SGN PI," Ove 
r 32 Characters - ReENTER ': PAUSE NOT PI: GO TO VAL '240' 
270 IF C$='Z" THEN 60 TO 6 
320 PRINT "C$ 

330 PRINT ""If Correct'? INVERSE SGN PI," ENTER'; INVERSE NOT 
PI" If Not, ENTER any letter' 
340 INPUT Z$ 

350 IF Z$<>" THEN 60 TO VAL '240" 

360 LET 0$(J)=C* 

380 NEXT J: RETURN 

630 as : INPUT "START WITH t ';Q 

640 FOR M=Q TO J 

650 PRINT PAPER PI?M? PAPER SGN PI;0$(M): NEXT M 

655 PRINT 'TAB VAL '20"; INVERSE 1;' NO MOW ": PAUSE NOT PI: R 

ETURN 

720 CLS : INPUT 'Title? (First 3 Letters>'" LINE N$ 
722 PRINT 'LOOKING FOR»-> ';N$ 
730 FOR M=l TO J 



PAUSE NOT PI: 



735>BEEP .805,38 

740 IF 0$(H)( TO 3)=N$( TO 3) THEN 60 TO 770 
750 NEXT M 

768 PRINT 'TAB VAL '28'; INVERSE SGN PI;' NO MOW 
RETURN 

770 PRINT INVERSE 1?M; INVERSE 8;0$(M) 

775 60 TO 750 

788 PAUSE NOT PI: RETURN 

890 REM =(WILD CARD SEARCH )= 

900 as : INPUT 'ENTER any character(s)!"' LINE X$ 

905 PRINT "SEARCHING FOR>=-> "?X$ 

910 PRINT : POKE 23692,255 

915 FOR N=l TO J 

920 FOR K=l TO 33-LEN X$ 

930 IF 0$(N,K TO K+LEN X$-1)=X$ THEN GO TO 96i 

935 NEXT K: NEXT N 

940 PRINT 'TAB 20; INVERSE SGN PI;' NO MOW ': BEEP .5,40: PAUSE N 
OT Pi: RETURN 

960 BEEP .83,40: PRINT 0*(N) 
965 60 TO 935 
970 RETURN 

1000 REM DELETES SPACES AFTER SORTING 

1020 FOR N=l TO J: LET 0$(N)=0$(N+1) 

1025 BEEP .005,40: NEXT N: GO TO G 

3000 CLS : INPUT 'ENTER Record # to be corrected" "N 

3018 PRINT INVERSE S6N PI;0$(N) 

3030 INPUT "ENTER the correction" 'A*: IF A*=" THEN RETURN 

3840 LET 0$(N)=A$: RETURN 

4000 as : RANDOMIZE USR H: OPEN #3, 'LP' 

4010 RANDOMIZE USR H: POKE 16092,0: RANDOMIZE USR H: POKE 16090,13 

2: REM 132 columns 

4015 INPUT 'Left Margin?' "R 

4030 RANDOMIZE USR H: POKE 16094, R: LPRINT : REM MARGIN 
4035 OUT 127,27: OUT 127,20: REM Condensed style/font 
4040 INPUT 'Start printing with #"'Y"End printing with #"'Z 
4045 FOR N=Y TO Z: LPRINT 0$(N): NEXT N 
4050 RANDOMIZE USR H: aOSE #3: RETURN 
8000 as : REM =( SHELL SORT )= 



8005 PRINT AT VAL '10',VAL '12" J 'STANDBY' ;AT VAL 
ASH SGN Pi;' SORTING ' 
8018 LET S=l 
8028 LET S=S*2 

8030 IF S<=J THEN GO TO 8028 

8048 LET S=INT (S/2) 

8050 IF S=8 THEN BEEP 1,30: RETURN 

8060 FOR T=l TO J-S 

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□isU Life 

So, you've just spent big bucks 
for a super piece of software, 
made your back— up and are 
working away with your working 
copy. Suddenly while you are 
working with a relatively 
unimportant utility program on 
another disk, your disk goes 
bad. That's not a major problem. 
You have a back-up somewhere, 
but it gets you thinking about 
your back-ups on your commercial 
programs. What happens if they 
go bad? Should you have made 
them on some type of premium 
disks to guard against that? 

You scour through catalogs and 
adds in magazines. There are 
sources galore for disks, at all 
prices, and some of them have 
specifications. You run into one 
spec called 'clipping level' and 
the supplier claims that because 
his disks have been tested to 
higher clipping level they are 
superior. Should you pay a 
premium for disks with superior 
specs? What do these specs mean? 
Will your back-ups be less 
likely to fail if you use 
premium disks? 

These are difficult questions to 
answer. Perhaps an explanation 
of some of the tests run on 
disks and what can happen to 
your back-ups with time would 
help you make that decision. In 
addition, you may be interested 
in considering the cost 
tradeoffs of using premium 
disks. 

As an engineer with many years 
of experience in magnetic 
recording I had never heard of 
the term 'clipping level' until 
it came up in a discussion on 
KAY-FOG. In fact, I had never 
seen a spec sheet in any box 
or bag (I buy the cheap stuff by 
mail order too) of disks I have 
bought. However, I spent a few 
years on a design team working 
on a Winchester Drive for 
personal computers. One of my 
jobs was the specification and 
testing of the disks used in the 
drives. 



by Ted Jensen 

CLIPPING LEVEL: Since magnetic 
media is pretty much the same 
whether it's tape, disk, or 
hardisks (the major difference 
being the base material the 
magnetic particles are bonded to 
is mylar for tape and disks, and 
aluminum for the hard disks), it 
wasn't difficult for me to guess 
at what was meant by 'clipping 
level'. A little looking through 
a parts catalog and I found a 
specification on a chip designed 
for use in disk drives and they 
defined 'clipping level' 
(although in rather vague 
terms). It's unfortunate that 
these words are used to describe 
a test performed on disks since 
they have a different and more 
understood meaning throughout 
the general electronics 
industry. In any case we will 
have to accept these words since 
they are the ones used in the 
advertisements . 

In simple terms, your drive uses 
a 'head' to read the information 
on the disk. You can think of 
this as being like the needle 
and pick-up on a phonograph. The 
head reads the magnetic 
information previously written 
on a disk and converts it into 
an electrical signal. This 
signal is furthur processed and 
eventually takes on a form 
suitable for transmission to 
your computer as bits, or bytes, 
which represents the data. 

SIGNAL VARIATION: The size and 
shape of the electrical signal 
developed by the head varies for 
many reasons. First of all, it 
varies as a result of the 
information written on the disk, 
and this variation itself 
represents that information . 
However, there are other 
variations which take place due 
to imperfections in the head, 
the mechanical characteristics 
of the drive, or the 
imperfections in the disk. These 
variations, if large enough, 
will lead to the drive 
electronics not being able to 
correctly decode the 



information, and your computer 
will indicate this by means of 
some error massage that it can't 
read the disk- It's therefore 
important to keep these 
variations (those not part of 
the data) at a minimum. 

COATING THICKNESS! Magnetic 
disks or tapes are made by 
bonding magnetic particles to a 
flexible mylar backing material. 
Characteristics which affect the 
performance of the final product 
include, but not limited to, the 
magnetic nature of the 
particles, the size of the 
particles, (note: it's the 
modification of these 2 
properties that make the 
difference between 1.2M disks 
and a 36K disk), the thickness 
of the coating, and, most 
important to the subject of 
'clipping level', the uniformity 
of the coating- If a tiny part 
of the disk, the size of a 
pinhole, doesn't get coated, the 
signal level recoverable from 
that spot is reduced. Thus, if 
there are a number of these of 
sufficient size, the level of 
the signal will be fairly 
uniform until the 'pin-hole' 
passes under the head, at which 
point it will drop- The industry 
refers to these as 'drop-outs'. 
Furthurmore, if the coating 
thickness varies over the 
surface of the disk, the 
amplitude of the signal can vary 
in a relatively smooth manner as 
the disk rotates. This is 
generally not a serious problem, 
however . 

Your drive can recover data by 
separating disk related 
variations from the variations 
in signal due to the real data, 
provided that the disk related 
variations are not too large. 
Typically a drive might be able 
to successfully ignore disk 
related variations which did not 
reduce the amplitude of the real 
signal to less than 307. of the 
normal output. This number, 
however, also depends on a wide 



variety of factors. 



and varies 



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from drive to drive, even the 
same model by the same 
manufacturer . 

Thus anything one could do to 
assure that the level of these 
disk related variations are held 
within a specified range should 
reduce the probablility of 
errors. The key word is 
'probability', and more will be 
said about this later. Therefore 
a disk which is tested to a 
'clipping level' of 60% is 
tested to assure that the 
variations due to disk are small 
enough that the signal level 
never drops below 60%. That is, 
the variations are held to a 
range between 60% and 100%. It 
follows that the higher the 
'clipping level', the less 
variation in signal output and 
the reduced chance of a disk 
error. Now comes the tough part. 
How much extra money should you 
pay for a disk tested to a 60% 
level as compared to one tested 
to a 40% level? Would you pay 
50% more? Ten times as much? The 
way I see it is this, there's a 
high probability that if a buy 
25 or 50 brand X disks and they 
all work, whatever tests were 
run on them were probably 
sufficient to assure me that 
brand X disks always work. I 
have no way of knowing what 
'clipping level' disks destined 
for my drives should be tested 
at, nor, do I believe, do the 
manufacturers of floppy disks. 

A WORD ABOUT HARD DISKSs In 
Winchester drives the situation 
is a little different. The 
manufacturers of the disks which 
go into these drives are 
generally different companies 
then those that make disk 
drives. The drive manufacturer 
imposes specifications on the 
disk maker. Furthermore, the 
drive manufacturer continually 
tests the disks using 
sophisticated equipment to be 
sure that the disk maker meets 
these specs. That is, people who 
manufacture disks for use in 
hard drives do not sell them 



directly to the end user 
(removable hard disks being the 
exception ) - 

BOTTOM LINE But, back to 

floppies. Assume I buy 100 disks 
from each of two sources. 
SuperDisk for $2.00 dollars 
each, and CheapDisk at *0.40 
per. Finally, out of all the 
disks I bought, one SuperDisk 
and ten CheapDisks failed to 
format. I have ended up paying 
slightly over $2.00/disk for the 
good SuperDisks, and about 45 
cents each for the good 
CheapDisks. I still think I got 
a good buy on the CheapDisks. 

MORE USE BETTER PERFORMANCE: 

What about disk failures in the 
future? That is as I use those 
90 CheapDisks are they more 
likely to fail in the future 
then the 99 SuperDisks? Well, I 
suppose there are those who 
would argue with me that in fact 
they would. But I really don't 
believe it. The reason is that 
the first few times I use a disk 
its performance improves. The 
surface of the disk is left 
slightly rough because of the 
manuaf acturing process and this 
prevents good contact between 
the head and the disk. This poor 
contact degrades disk 

performance. As the disk is used 
and rotates past the head, the 
head knocks off some particles 
of the coating, smoothing the 
surface and improving the 
contact and the performance. In 
tape recording, in critical 
applications, new tape is nver 
used without running it through 
a machine at least once and 
sometimes several times, just 
for this reason. Therefore, 
after I have used my CheapDisks 
several times I feel more 
comfortable with them then when 
they were brand new. 

HOW LONG WILL THEY LAST?: 
finnally, what about the really 
long term? Will CheapDisks 
retain the information stored on 
them equally as well as 
SuperDisks, say over a period of 



a 100 years? Well, here we are 
dealing with real unknowns. 
There are no disks around that 
are a 100 years old. Magnetic 
recordings using media of the 
type used in disks is only about 
40 years old. Archival data that 
has been around for long periods 
of time has turned out to be a 
problem in a number of fields. 
Ask a librarian about the 
problems facing the Library of 
Congress in protecting many of 
its books. 

There has been some experience 
with magnetic recording in 
general that may be of interest. 
In tape, such as your audio or 
videa cassettes, or computer 
tape as used on large main 
frames, there's a problem with 
long term storage known as 
'print through'. The magnetic 
pattern on the tape representing 
the information emanates a 
magnetic field, just as the 
North and South poles do. This 
field is very minute, but still 
present, and any material 
susceptable to being magnetized 
will do so in the presence of a 
magnetic field. This is true 
even for weak fields if the 
material is held still within 
the field for long periods of 
time. All tape is susceptible to 
being magnetized, that's its 
prime purpose in lige. When 
wound on a reel , each peice of 
tape is tightly pressed against 
another one, and each peice 
emanates a field. If the tape is 
left untouched for several 
years, a little of the 
information recorded on each 
peice is transferred to mix with 
the information on the adjacent 
piece. In audio tapes one can 
hear this as low level 
background of the same music 
that played either a few seconds 
earlier or a few seconds later, 
particularly where a loud 
passage is immediately followed 
by a quiet one. 

Normally disks have a jacket 
around them that is fairly 
thick. Thus it's unlikely that 



print through would take place 
between disks. On double sided 
disks however, the magnetic 
information on one side is 
pretty close to that on the 
other side, the distance being 
the same range as that 
previously discussed in the case 
of tape on a reel. If I were to 
make a guess at the first cause 
of long term failure, in the 
sense of not being able to 
recover 100% of the material 
from a floppy, I would guess 
that 'print through' would be 
the cause . 

RE-COPY YOUR FLOPPIES: Someone 
once raised the question of 
whether it makes sense to 
re-copy masters of back-ups from 
time to time to make new 
back-ups. My initial reaction 
was that I didn't think it was 
worthwhile. Having given it some 
thought, however, it might not 
be a bad idea. If there's a 
degradation that takes place 
with time on an untouched 
back-up as it sits on the shelf, 
re— copying does in fact restore 
the information to a more 
pristine state and thus acts as 
added protection against the 
probability of losing your data. 
As to SuperDisks being any 
better then CheapDisks in an 
archival sense, I can think of 
no reason why there should be 
any difference, but perhaps we 
won ' t know that answer for 
another 100 years. 



HOW COME SO CHEAP? There are a 
lot of reasons SuperDisks sell 
for more than CheapDisks. They 
spend more on advertising, or 
packaging, and possibly 
corporate headquarters. They 
sell primarily to companies, 
which avoid buying anything by 
mail order from some post office 
box across the country. And they 
sell at the price they do 
because people are willing to 
pay for it, whatever the reason. 
In fact, however, if you look 
into it you'll find that many of 
the people selling the cheaper 19 
disks are buying their raw 



materials from the same source 
as those selling the expensive 
versions. The whole thing about 
mass produced products, whether 
it's disks, drives, computers, 
or light bulbs, is that they are 
produced on a statistical basis. 
That is, costs are reduced to 
the point where the chance of a 
bad one getting to the user is 
acceptably low. This is simply 
good business. No company can 
stay in business if it strives 
for perfection in a commercial 
product line. Only governments 
can afford products which have 
been tested to the level of a 
space shuttle, and as we've 
found out, even they're not as 
perfect as needed. Personally 
I've always bought the least 
expensive disks I could find, 
furthurmore, I buy single sided, 
single density disks and use 
them in double sided double 
density drives with no problems. 
On one occasion, I paid over 
$25.00 for a box of 10 disks. It 
was a Sunday, I needed them, and 
they were the only ones I could 
find. One of the disks proved to 
be one of the few I ever ran 
into that was bad right out of 
the box. 

On last comment on 

probabilities. If the odds of a 
given disk failing is 1 in 1,000 
under whatever circumstances, 
the chance of 2 failing under 
the same circustances is 1 in 
1,000 times 1,000 or 1 in 
1,000,000. Anyone for making 2 
45 cent back-ups instead of 1 
$2.00 backup? 

PSs I've taken some liberties in 
the preceding comments in the 
interest of keeping it from 
becoming overly technical but I 
don't believe these affect the 
substance of the arguments for 
purchasing lower cost disks. 
Also, I wasn't able to find 
detailed information on the 
testing of disks in the 
literature and much of the above 
is based on extending my 
experience from tape and hard 
disks to floppy disks. I'd 



appreciate it if anyone having 
more information on the subject, 
or finding inaccuracies within 
this tome contact me by mail at: 
P. 0- BOX 324, Redwood City, CA 
94062. 

COMMENTS by Don Lambert 

Without going into the elements 
of costs I am interested in long 
term storage of programs on 
floppy disks. How long will a 
disk hold data without loss? In 
other words how long before I 
should make backup copies and 
then refresh the original disk? 
Is that an element that can be 
addressed in any fashion? 

But the above article does give 
some insights into the problem. 
First there is the problem of 
"print through". One way to 
avoid that problem is to FORMAT 
and SAVE to single sided disks. 
But if the disks take eight 
years to "print through" and the 
disks themselves even if single 
sided no longer retain data more 
than ten years then it is not 
much of a gain to use single 
sided disks. What is the 
shortest time that a disk will 
fail? What is the longest time? 
If one would check a thousand 
disks annually what is the bell 
curve of the recoverable data 
from the disks? 

And then the concept of using a 
disk a few times to smooth up 
the "rough spots", is another 
idea. But is it practical? 
Should one FORMAT a disk a 
number of times before it is 
used as the "archive copy"? If 
you do would it not be a good 
idea to use a disk drive that is 
not your #1 best drive but a 
drive that is relegated to that 
purpose. In my experience I have 
had a very few disks that would 
FORMAT on the 3rd or 4th try 
when they wouldn't FORMAT the 
first times. Is this the reason 
why? 

Anyone have any comments on 
this? 



DISK LIFE! 
By Ed Snows 

To answer your question about 
how long tapes will last. Data 
tapes, when kept in a 
temperature and humidity 
controlled environmemt will 
retain their ability to hold 
data virturally forever. 
However, as you pointed out, the 
condition of "bleed through" or 
"print throught" will gradually 
erase the data that is on the 
tape. To prevent this, tapes 
must be rewound periodically. 
Most companies having large 
amounts of data stored on tape 
will employ a tape librarian 
whose duties include the 
rewinding of tapes. Most 
companies will rewind every few 
months. If you keep your 
cassette tapes away from excess 
humidity and rewind them 
periodically they should last 
far longer than you or I will! 
Of course this assumes good 
quality tapes that have not been 
exposed to ultraviolet (which 
destroys the mylar substrate of 
the tape) or excess heat. The 
general rule is that if you are 
comfortable in the environment, 
then so are your tapes. 

As far as floppy diskettes are 
concerned, they are basically 
just round tapes. They also are 
made of mylar, and the coatings 
used are basically the same. 
However, with diskettes you do 
not have the problem of bleed 
through because the mylar is 
much thicker than that used in 
cassette tapes. At least that is 
what I have been told. On a 
diskette, the problem is that 
the data is stored by aligning 
the iron oxide particles in the 
coating either north-south 
(representing a 1) or 
south-north (representing a 0). 
Or vice-versa (I never can 
remember which is which). 
Anyway > the north pole of a 
binary 1 will attract the south 
pole of an adjacent binary 0 and 
eventually cancel each other 



out. The designers take this 
into consideration when they 
plan the data density that the 
diskette will use. As hardware 
became more efficient and the 
quality of the coatings 
improved, data densities have 
gone up without sacrificing 
reliability. This means that in 
the same environment, the 
diskette will hold data just as 
long as tape will. A friend of 
mine has floppy diskettes from 
an old Ohio Scientific kit 
computer from 1979 that are 
still readable after 13 years. 
I have at the college 8" 
diskettes dated from 1972 that 
are still readible and reusable 
on a System 34 minicomputer. 
That's 20 years! 

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4 /A"5 

4/93 


Edward £2 


Jordan 


6/93 


Jon 


Kaczor 


7/92 


Joan 


Kealy 


if /A*3 

4/yJ 


Chuck 


Kereluck 


j/yz 


Wayne w 


Knaust 


2793 


Donald 


JLamoert 


4/93 


David §2 


Lassov 


1 1 /n't 
11/92 


Mel 


Laverne 


5/92 


David 


Leech 


9/92 


Robert 


Madans 


5/93 


Lt Col. Walter 


Malm 


3/93 


Harry 


Miller Jr 


5/93 


n 1 

JrranK 


if Hi- 
Mills 


CAM 

5/93 


Gregory 


Newtanc 


5/93 


Gilliam 


Parrish 


9/92 


Edwin 


Phillips 


4/92 


TI t 

Hugh 


PoIIey 


5/93 


T„ 1... 

John 


TV A fit 

Ponerbeld 


4 /At 

4/92 


TT I 

Hugh 


Scriven 


11/92 


Robert 


Shade 


2/92 


John 


Shepard 


5/92 


Louis 


Simon 


6/93 


Francine 


Sklar 


4 /At 

4/92 


n J . -l 

Edward 


Snow 


5/93 


Alexander 


oweitzer 


ffyj 


Mike 


Stephens 


4/92 


Stuart 


Walton 


4/92 


Basil 


Wentworth 


4/92 


Ivan 


Zachev 


4/92 


Wesley © 


Zapotochna 


6793 



As of July 7, 1993, we have a 
balance of $529.27 from 6 groups, 
2 dealers and individual contribu- 
tors. 

Abed Kahale, Treasurer 

The 

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